Judo Up

I was thinking about this question:
​
If you can wrestle up from the guard position, you should be able to judo up… right?
​
Especially with the gi on.
​
But practically speaking, somehow, it feels it would be more challenging to come up from some guard position and get into a position where you can execute a Judo throw effectively, at least compared with wrestling up.
​
Or perhaps it’s just my imagination not working hard enough.
​
But then…
​
I came across this Instagram post by Adam Wardzinski, who is known as one of the best butterfly guard players:
​
“Theres infinite possibilities in jiu jitsu and its truly amazing how can you connect concepts that seem to have nothing in common at first. I found out this connection between firemans carry and butterfly guard while I was learning some judo concepts from two time olympian Tomasz Adamiec at the camp here in Poland, two weeks ago…”
​
He connected the butterfly guard with kata guruma (shoulder wheel, a.k.a fireman’s carry in wrestling). See how he does it in his video.
​
It’s fascinating because people try to stand up and disengage from the butterfly guard like this, and now Adam could counter such a move by throwing his opponent with kata guruma. I bet not many people would ever expect kata guruma from this position.
​
Now I wonder if I could do something similar from the spider guard, whether it’s wrestling up or Judo-ing up.
​
This kind of experimentation is what makes learning BJJ fun.